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might vote next week to raise the debt ceiling for even three months. there is a very muted reaction and what to watch here are how people are buying etfs. this is the s&p 500. you can buy it in a single stock and you might say, oh, gee, there is a move there to the far right on the upside when the announcement came. but it is a very, very narrow amplitude. very narrow range of trading. that's about three points on the s&p 500. the volume did pick up and we will have volume towards the heavy side today. if you think that is good news pushing the debt ceiling out for stocks and i think generally would you look at it as good news, it certainly is fairly muted here. as for the major indices for the week, what simon was just talking about, there are deeper cyclical changes. big industrial names have been generally outperforming and that is very good news, if you think the global economy, those stocks would more closer would the global economy. >> you get this, this real tight hugging of the flat line friday. monday, tuesday, wednesday and then again today.
might vote next week to raise the debt ceiling for even three months. there is a very muted reaction and what to watch here are how people are buying etfs. this is the s&p 500. you can buy it in a single stock and you might say, oh, gee, there is a move there to the far right on the upside when the announcement came. but it is a very, very narrow amplitude. very narrow range of trading. that's about three points on the s&p 500. the volume did pick up and we will have volume towards the...
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but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with jimmy p. as well. missing an interest payment, a very low probability. >> that where some of the confusion seems to be, steve. exact lit public understanding. that why we are here at cnbc to what the risk really is. is someone not going to get their social security check? is the post office not going to be paid? what would happen first? >> brian, a lot of people don't understand because it is complicated. neither side of this depate want you to understand the reality here. on the one hand, the administration wants you to -- doesn't want you to know there are two options here. def
but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with...
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on the debt ceiling yet. we have no idea what sequestration would mean. apple is leading the market. actually gotten killed. all of these things would be told and needed to be in place in order for the market to go up and are not. i think the story here is very low expectations and investors looking at that three-year number, five-year number and saying the market is way more hospitable than i thought it would be and i need to do something different than what i've been doing all this time. >> all right. rick santelli, your take on this day. your landscape is bigger than just equities. treasury yields have been ticking up. currencies are going higher against the dollar and oil is going higher. what do you make of what's going on today? >> well, one thing just said that has a common denominator with all of those, of course, is liquefying and central bank activity whether it's bank of japan, europe, we see interest rates are up. went from 180 to testing 190. the bund violated 160, hasn't done that for a while. e
on the debt ceiling yet. we have no idea what sequestration would mean. apple is leading the market. actually gotten killed. all of these things would be told and needed to be in place in order for the market to go up and are not. i think the story here is very low expectations and investors looking at that three-year number, five-year number and saying the market is way more hospitable than i thought it would be and i need to do something different than what i've been doing all this time....
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everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding up against 5 1/2 year lows. clearly, people are not paying as much attention to it right now and now we have the gun thing going on out of washington, d.c. so even the people in washington themselves are putting it almost on the back burner for another few weeks. once a week or so, you get an easy statement out of somebody. but i think overall, the market is trading like the market should off the things that matter to the market. the debt ceiling will be a short lift. >> i word when the average person gets engaged again. i wonder how many individuals at home are saying, hon fee, we own some united healthcare. we've been buying it because of obama care and we know everybody is going to be added somehow to be covered. i just don't see that type of interest to -- it's professionals that are trading the market. it's not -- individuals are still not in. >> i agree with you to a point. >> you say something about appl
everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding up against 5 1/2 year lows. clearly, people are not paying as much attention to it right now and now we have the gun thing going on out of washington, d.c. so even the people in washington themselves are putting it almost on the back burner for another few weeks. once a week or so, you get an easy statement out of somebody. but i think...
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>> what it might have been had there not be crisis after crisis dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you said last night, you've got to put on a yogi bear costume to make sense of it. >> returning a lot to shareholders. >> one wonders. >> $12 million they're talking about. >> they have been increasing, of course, ever since the huge cuts that had to take place. what is it going to be now, four years ago, right? >> that period, $6. >> yeah. >> march of '09. amazing, coming up on the four-year anniversary. >> do you ever worry about your paycheck? >> yeah. i think you worry about money you had in any bank account or anything. sure. ge was to cushifocused in the ff '08, that was the moment where it could all come to -- >> that was after the ge bailout. >> sorry, not to revisit the -- >> we have to remind people where we came from. tim geithner leaving, david faber is worried about his paycheck. >> speaking of paychecks, let's talk morgan stanley. wall street firm reporting fourth quarter earnings 45 earlier on squawk, james gorman said his firm is poised to improved market environment. whic
>> what it might have been had there not be crisis after crisis dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you said last night, you've got to put on a yogi bear costume to make sense of it. >> returning a lot to shareholders. >> one wonders. >> $12 million they're talking about. >> they have been increasing, of course, ever since the huge cuts that had to take place. what is it going to be now, four years ago, right? >> that period, $6. >> yeah. >>...
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that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself four times have done that. three times those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. what chuck and i and i think many people about are this new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate when they seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents on the debt ceiling and your own history and the debt ceiling and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about how to resolve this? >> no, major. i think if you look at the history geing votes for the debt ceiling are always difficult and budgets in this town are always difficult. i went through this just last year. what's different is we never saw a situation as we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position. that we came within a few days of defaulting. the fact of the matter is, that we have never seen the debt ceiling used in this fashion, where the notion was, you kn
that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself four times have done that. three times those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. what chuck and i and i think many people about are this new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate when they seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents on the debt ceiling and your own history and the debt ceiling and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into...
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he seems to have been a force forex tending debt ceiling in order to gain some time to negotiate. i think all of that argues in favor of some time to get the right things done. >> chuck gabriel, how did you read or hear the president's passage where he talked about medicare and social security and he said the commitments we make to each other through medicare, medicaid, social security, these things do not zap our initiative, they strengthen it. they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us and make this country great. that felt to me like a bit of a stake in the ground by the president. >> yeah. you know, the president last week cast doubt on whether republicans believe in the principles and functions of social security and medicare, etc. so in some respects i think this is kind of a new, improved version of what president clinton did when he was facing a republican congress. he was talking about family values back in the '90s. he said i want a government that values families. and as the president said, we don't need to relitigate this today, but we need a government that
he seems to have been a force forex tending debt ceiling in order to gain some time to negotiate. i think all of that argues in favor of some time to get the right things done. >> chuck gabriel, how did you read or hear the president's passage where he talked about medicare and social security and he said the commitments we make to each other through medicare, medicaid, social security, these things do not zap our initiative, they strengthen it. they do not make us a nation of takers,...
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ceiling which tends to be popular. people -- you know, the american public, they hear debt ceiling and they think no, let's not do that. that sounds awful to give government more money to spend. he's trying to turn it around. but it absolutely is a dynamic that he exemplploited when he w senator. >> robert costa, let's look at this for a minute. republicans have a tricky situation. because the country does not want us to default. and this whole business of managing accounts and prioritizing, there's 80 million payment accounts. i know the interest on the debt will be paid, but to some extent the gop has got to watch itself, robert. they could come really at the wrong end of a massive public relations blunder. >> that's exactly right, larry. the president's press conference today really was first battle in this public relations war. what matters is that the president is out there for an hour, making his case to the american people. what the republicans need to do a better job is making their case. now, it's easy to poin
ceiling which tends to be popular. people -- you know, the american public, they hear debt ceiling and they think no, let's not do that. that sounds awful to give government more money to spend. he's trying to turn it around. but it absolutely is a dynamic that he exemplploited when he w senator. >> robert costa, let's look at this for a minute. republicans have a tricky situation. because the country does not want us to default. and this whole business of managing accounts and...
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. >> now the debt ceiling and then it's sequester and the continuing resolution. we go from this cliff to that cliff, and we don't deal with the problem. if we deal with the problem, there's so many assets in america. we can grow our way out of this. >> let me ask you about getting out of a problem and for many it's regular laying. after the 2008 upset, the banking sector has faced much higher regulation. things are changing quite a bit. we're no longer riding a wave of deregulation, quite the opposite. talk to us about the regulatory environment and how you see it. >> clearly regulations increased. we have dodd/frank with, you know, thousands of pages. let's be honest about it. there were some bad actors prior to 2008. i'm all in favor of good solid regulation with regulators who have real teeth and can make things happen. what i don't want to have happen is excessive regulation that stands in the way of us serving our customers. i mean -- >> what's excess? what's one rule that you think is excess? >> i don't know what it's going to look like but look at volcker.
. >> now the debt ceiling and then it's sequester and the continuing resolution. we go from this cliff to that cliff, and we don't deal with the problem. if we deal with the problem, there's so many assets in america. we can grow our way out of this. >> let me ask you about getting out of a problem and for many it's regular laying. after the 2008 upset, the banking sector has faced much higher regulation. things are changing quite a bit. we're no longer riding a wave of...
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there's been three or four deficit deals reached during debt ceiling negotiations. that's what they've been used for in the past. in fact, you voted no on raising the debt ceiling in 2006, and some other things. and then to see him actually, he looked shocked that his loyal cadre of acolytes that someone would actually broach the subject that, you know, that he actually had a tough time answering. >> i think it shows the position he's in, though. he gets attacked from the right and the left. >> he doesn't get attack. the questions i want asked are never asked of him anywhere. >> he should come on "squawk." >> that's not going to happen. >> i'll get out. is that possible? >> no. >> i had a story but we'll talk about that one later. >> what's your story? >> we'll do it later in the broadcast. >> about nerds? >> what else would it be about? you want me to talk to here? i'm going to talk to here. coming up this morning's top stories, plus we're going to hop behind the wheel with nissan ceo carlos ghosn at the detroit auto show. first check this out, double the guest hos
there's been three or four deficit deals reached during debt ceiling negotiations. that's what they've been used for in the past. in fact, you voted no on raising the debt ceiling in 2006, and some other things. and then to see him actually, he looked shocked that his loyal cadre of acolytes that someone would actually broach the subject that, you know, that he actually had a tough time answering. >> i think it shows the position he's in, though. he gets attacked from the right and the...
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. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether the insurer transferred its rights to sue for losses that it incurred on its troubled bonds when it sold $2 billion in securities to the fed in 20308. aig is preserving its right to sue the federal government and other debts. >> fed chairman ben bernanke is going to speak and answer questions at the university of michigan. in d.c., president obama is said to be forging ahead on a wide ranging plan to overhaul the immigration plan this year. this includes a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country. immigrants would have to pay fines and back taxes. it would require businesses to veri
. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether...
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you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end of 2011, it was an issue where you're going to be watching on tv that the soldiers that protect our freedom, are they going to get their check? soldiers that came back wounded from the first gulf war, are they going to get their check? that is going to be the issue on the front page, grover, is it not? >> and august of 2011 we had all the same screaming. i did all the television shows where people said taxpayers are causing the problems. i said the president is. we won, he lost. we got the spending cuts which he's trying to fight still but he got his debt ceiling
you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end...
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that we did, were those occurring at the same time as debt ceiling raises? >> they all do. >> we've heard that that -- i'm not going to accept that, not going to do it, not the way it's done. we're not a banana republic. how many can you recall, deficit deals were affected? it's something that's done, is it not? >> standard operating procedure. we all learned about the power of the purse of democracy. back then, it used to be taxes because they couldn't borrow. now, you can borrow. taxes aren't the only strains what government can spend. the parliament and congress has to be able to control the borrowing level. that's government 101. >> is zit in g-- dis in geingeny we've already been to the restaurant and trying to stiff the bill? it wasn't the $800 stimulus or any of the things the president's done, it's congress? >> first, you're raising debt limits to cover future spending. fact one is the money hasn't been spent yet. that's not true. >> it's sort of disassembling. >> that's a good word for it. the second fact is congress hasn't approved the money. no co
that we did, were those occurring at the same time as debt ceiling raises? >> they all do. >> we've heard that that -- i'm not going to accept that, not going to do it, not the way it's done. we're not a banana republic. how many can you recall, deficit deals were affected? it's something that's done, is it not? >> standard operating procedure. we all learned about the power of the purse of democracy. back then, it used to be taxes because they couldn't borrow. now, you can...
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really is story is about growth just like with our debt ceiling. it's not about how you go about the messiness to fix it. it really should be about the debt ceiling itself. i'm sure the germans are particular. they had a good 2012. i expect these numbers to go up a bit. i look at german manufacturers like mercedes benz, vovolkswage. japanese exporters like nissan, toyota. i think the battlefield first and foremost is going to be on the war side on the export side. remember, japan achbd germany, the percentive of their exporting that figures into their total economy is so much larger, for example, than the u.s. our numbers are reasonable and our growth is substantial. we went from 1 trillion to basically 1.5 trillion. the point is they are great trades out there. the traders op these floor now have more spread on currency cross charts in their folios to get ready to strat jaegize. there's a lot of hedging. this is something to watch. when the 2012 figures come out we are going to look at them apd we're going to try to gauge exactly how much of a for
really is story is about growth just like with our debt ceiling. it's not about how you go about the messiness to fix it. it really should be about the debt ceiling itself. i'm sure the germans are particular. they had a good 2012. i expect these numbers to go up a bit. i look at german manufacturers like mercedes benz, vovolkswage. japanese exporters like nissan, toyota. i think the battlefield first and foremost is going to be on the war side on the export side. remember, japan achbd germany,...